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JonSnow
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13. rujna 2024. u 00:05

u3pm je napisao/la:

nikadosta je napisao/la:

https://www.estacweb.fr/viewtopic.php?t=21265

Također kome se da Francuzi imaju svoje forume i čak temu o njemu, zadnji upis je thanks for nothing.

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Očekujem puno manje nego od Mindaugasa

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Komentar sa predzadnje strane ovog francuskog foruma, sazetak Vitalija 

 

"Možda Vitali nije jedini odgovoran, ali postoji jedna konstanta: Vitalli treći put zaredom igra u klubu koji se bori ili ne uspijeva pobjeći s dna ljestvice.

 

 Kako to da NIKADA stvari ne funkcioniraju sportski kad je on DS?

 

 Vitalli, za 3 kluba u kojima je bio, nikada nije uspio postići cilj sportske kohezije s trenerima. Želim to dokazati valcerom trenera i rezultatima pod njegovim vodstvom.

 

 U Lilleu je ostao DS 2 sezone, poznavao je 4 trenera (Renard, Collot, Antonetti i Passi). U Bruggeu u 1 sezoni i 1/4 poznavao je 4 trenera (Riga, Vercauteren, Guyot i Jeunechamps). U ESTAC-u ima 6 trenera (Battles, Irles, Robin, Kisnorbo, Diarra i Guion).

 

 Lille, Bruges i Troyes su sportski pali ili propali dok je on bio DS. Zašto?

 

 Između 2015. i 2024. u 3 kluba u kojima je zadužen za sportsku koheziju, poznavao je 14 trenera, svakako postoji nešto što zaslužuje razjasniti!"

nikadosta
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13. rujna 2024. u 00:08

IP1110 je napisao/la:

nikadosta je napisao/la:

https://www.estacweb.fr/viewtopic.php?t=21265

Također kome se da Francuzi imaju svoje forume i čak temu o njemu, zadnji upis je thanks for nothing.

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ChatGPTu:

The mid-to-late discussion in the ESTACWEB forum about François Vitali provides more detailed examples of both support and critique during his time at Troyes.

Supporters of Vitali:

Some fans believed that Vitali’s recruitment skills were strong, citing examples like Lucas Chevalier (then a Lille reserve), Dina Ebimbe, and Rasmus Højlund. These players were potential signings, but external constraints, particularly the influence of City Football Group (CFG), prevented their acquisition. Some argue that under CFG’s watch, Vitali spent time pursuing ineffective signings like Ilić and Palaversa, which hindered progress​(ESTACWEB).

Criticisms:

However, many criticized Vitali for failing to build a balanced and cohesive team. A frequent complaint was that despite six or seven transfer windows, key positions—such as left-back, striker, and right-back—were left unaddressed for long stretches. Some signings, like Renaud Ripart, Ronny Lopes, and Ike Ugbo, received mixed reviews, with some supporters feeling they didn’t meet expectations. The club’s reliance on loaned players for crucial positions, like goalkeepers and strikers, was seen as a short-term fix rather than sustainable team building​(ESTACWEB).

The City Football Group’s Role:

A significant theme throughout the discussion was Vitali’s perceived lack of autonomy. CFG’s slow decision-making processes and focus on developing young players for potential resale often interfered with more pragmatic, immediate needs for the team. While some fans believed that with more freedom, Vitali could have built a stronger team, others saw his failure to resist CFG’s control as part of the problem. One specific example cited was the sale of Biancone, which was meant to give the club financial autonomy, but it ultimately led to further issues​(ESTACWEB).

The End:

As ESTAC faced relegation, disappointment grew among the supporters. Despite some initial successes and interesting prospects, Vitali was ultimately seen as having failed to create a balanced and competitive squad. His reliance on loans and CFG’s influence left fans frustrated, and by the end of his tenure, many believed the club’s instability was partly his responsibility​(ESTACWEB).

In summary, while Vitali’s time at Troyes had moments of promise, fans felt his impact was diminished by both internal mismanagement and the City Football Group’s overarching control, leading to unbalanced squads and underperformance on the pitch.

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Uh jedva čekam sutra članka u našim medijima od ovoga

Šaljivac
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13. rujna 2024. u 00:09
Ko je ovaj francuz ne znam, ali nije ni bitno ako će morat čekat danima odobrenje od NO-a za sve živo. Opet pitam sve one koji misle da će Hajduku krenit nabolje ako nas Dinamo danas zgazi: Zašto bi išta bilo bolje ako izgubimo? Koliko puta smo dobili porciju od Dinama i je li se ikad poslije toga išta prominilo nabolje?
[uredio Šaljivac - 13. rujna 2024. u 00:15]
SLAVA UKRAJINI!
JonSnow
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13. rujna 2024. u 00:10

Jel zna Sunara i francuski?

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13. rujna 2024. u 00:11

romeo đerek je napisao/la:

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Također kome se da Francuzi imaju svoje forume i čak temu o njemu, zadnji upis je thanks for nothing.

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Troyes je dio City-eve grupe tako da ne virujen da se tu puno njega pitalo

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Ako ga se nije puno pitalo onda je baš prava osoba za ove u Hajduku

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nokia3310
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13. rujna 2024. u 00:12

JonSnow je napisao/la:

Komentar sa predzadnje strane ovog francuskog foruma, sazetak Vitalija 

 

"Možda Vitali nije jedini odgovoran, ali postoji jedna konstanta: Vitalli treći put zaredom igra u klubu koji se bori ili ne uspijeva pobjeći s dna ljestvice.

 

 Kako to da NIKADA stvari ne funkcioniraju sportski kad je on DS?

 

 Vitalli, za 3 kluba u kojima je bio, nikada nije uspio postići cilj sportske kohezije s trenerima. Želim to dokazati valcerom trenera i rezultatima pod njegovim vodstvom.

 

 U Lilleu je ostao DS 2 sezone, poznavao je 4 trenera (Renard, Collot, Antonetti i Passi). U Bruggeu u 1 sezoni i 1/4 poznavao je 4 trenera (Riga, Vercauteren, Guyot i Jeunechamps). U ESTAC-u ima 6 trenera (Battles, Irles, Robin, Kisnorbo, Diarra i Guion).

 

 Lille, Bruges i Troyes su sportski pali ili propali dok je on bio DS. Zašto?

 

 Između 2015. i 2024. u 3 kluba u kojima je zadužen za sportsku koheziju, poznavao je 14 trenera, svakako postoji nešto što zaslužuje razjasniti!"

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Odlicno ce se uklopit u nas mentalitet, vidi se da se pazilo pri izboru

IP1110
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13. rujna 2024. u 00:13

Novi SD je u bivsen klubu predstavio 10(!) godisnju strategiju u kojima je meduostalom reka da 1/3 momcadi mora bit iz akademije (nas proizvod).

I ne dam da mi ljudi govore, znam da lažu od ljubomore. #prgavafamilija
Kroz_noge_Zebini
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13. rujna 2024. u 00:14

Ko ce bit njegov Gabelic? Tko ce vodit presicu nakon otkaza na kojoj ce ovaj slavodobitno ustvrditi "le modèle est nul"?

nikadosta
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13. rujna 2024. u 00:16

IP1110 je napisao/la:

nikadosta je napisao/la:

https://www.estacweb.fr/viewtopic.php?t=21265

Također kome se da Francuzi imaju svoje forume i čak temu o njemu, zadnji upis je thanks for nothing.

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ChatGPTu:

The mid-to-late discussion in the ESTACWEB forum about François Vitali provides more detailed examples of both support and critique during his time at Troyes.

Supporters of Vitali:

Some fans believed that Vitali’s recruitment skills were strong, citing examples like Lucas Chevalier (then a Lille reserve), Dina Ebimbe, and Rasmus Højlund. These players were potential signings, but external constraints, particularly the influence of City Football Group (CFG), prevented their acquisition. Some argue that under CFG’s watch, Vitali spent time pursuing ineffective signings like Ilić and Palaversa, which hindered progress​(ESTACWEB).

Criticisms:

However, many criticized Vitali for failing to build a balanced and cohesive team. A frequent complaint was that despite six or seven transfer windows, key positions—such as left-back, striker, and right-back—were left unaddressed for long stretches. Some signings, like Renaud Ripart, Ronny Lopes, and Ike Ugbo, received mixed reviews, with some supporters feeling they didn’t meet expectations. The club’s reliance on loaned players for crucial positions, like goalkeepers and strikers, was seen as a short-term fix rather than sustainable team building​(ESTACWEB).

The City Football Group’s Role:

A significant theme throughout the discussion was Vitali’s perceived lack of autonomy. CFG’s slow decision-making processes and focus on developing young players for potential resale often interfered with more pragmatic, immediate needs for the team. While some fans believed that with more freedom, Vitali could have built a stronger team, others saw his failure to resist CFG’s control as part of the problem. One specific example cited was the sale of Biancone, which was meant to give the club financial autonomy, but it ultimately led to further issues​(ESTACWEB).

The End:

As ESTAC faced relegation, disappointment grew among the supporters. Despite some initial successes and interesting prospects, Vitali was ultimately seen as having failed to create a balanced and competitive squad. His reliance on loans and CFG’s influence left fans frustrated, and by the end of his tenure, many believed the club’s instability was partly his responsibility​(ESTACWEB).

In summary, while Vitali’s time at Troyes had moments of promise, fans felt his impact was diminished by both internal mismanagement and the City Football Group’s overarching control, leading to unbalanced squads and underperformance on the pitch.

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Kako bi ChatGPT napravio sažetak ovog foruma, jel uopće moguće? 

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Bogomdani
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13. rujna 2024. u 00:17

Ma ajde pustite Jamesona, soecca i ostale na miru.

Ne slažem se s njima u gotovo svemu, da san in sto minusa

Imaju svoj đir, ja iman svoj, neko šesti svoj

Vrime će pokazat ko je u pravu

Šta da ja po stoti put ponavljam jednu te istu stvar?

Ko je svatija je shvatija

Samo ću spomenit čovika koji je Hajduku najviše da u zadnjih 15ak godina, više od svih u klubu i oko kluba uključujući i nas sve, jer ga nisan ranije spomenija a to je jedan jedini i neponovljivi Marko Livaja, Bog ti da sriće i zdravlja!

Samo vjera, nada i ljubav, a najveća od njih je ljubav. Merčep, Praljak, Prlić, Petković, Ćorić, Pušić, Stojić - velikani hrvatskog naroda
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